RR.NET Forums Forum Index RR.NET Forums

 

Princess - Villain Or Anti-Hero?
Click here to go to the original topic

 
       RR.NET Forums Forum Index -> Classic PPG and RRB Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Booncy



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 51
Location: West Haverstraw

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:15 am    Post subject: Princess - Villain Or Anti-Hero?  

Is it just me or is the character Princess a bit complex. It's well known that she's one of the PPG's worst (IMO) enimies, but then on the other hand it's like she wants to be a hero despite her already gained villain status!

Examples of episodes where she acted like a Villain:

- Stuck Up, Up, and Away (the final part of the episode)
- Birthday Bash
- Mo Job
- Bought And Scold
- Meet The Beat Alls
- Superfriends (By her intentions with Robin)
- Boy Toys (BEFORE she introduced herself to the RRB's)
- See Me, Feel Me, Gnomey
- T'was The Fight Before Christmas

And where she acted like a Hero:

- Stuck Up, Up, And Away
- Superfriends (IRONICALLY also by her intentions with Robin)
- Boy Toys

And lets not forget she's always mentioning to the PPG's constantly that she wants to be one of them. The real question is IF she should ever achieve her goal what will she use her powers for? Good or Evil? Either way she's just plain weird for me, lol :P.
Back to top  
Dela



Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Posts: 24

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:31 am    Post subject:  

Yeah, I'm kind of confused too.

I think that she wants to be a Powerpuff Girl, but she resents the original PPG at the same time. In other words: She just wants the title.

After that, I have noooo idea if she wants to be a "bad" Powerpuff Girl, or a "good" Powerpuff Girl and failing at it. :D I believe Princess just cannot be genuinely kind-hearted without some serious therapy and/or brainwashing. :)
Back to top  
DarkGunn



Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Posts: 1244
Location: London

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: Princess - Villain Or Anti-Hero?  

Booncy wrote:
And where she acted like a Hero:

- Stuck Up, Up, And Away
- Superfriends (IRONICALLY also by her intentions with Robin)
- Boy Toys



She didn't do anything in those episodes to even be considered an Anti Hero. In Stuck Up, Up, And Away, like all spoiled brats when denied something she doesn't stop whining until she gets what she wants.

In Superfriends she only used Robin to make the girls jealous. That or she saw the girls had something she didn't.

In Boys toys she had no intention of stopping the Rowdyruff Boys, she only wanted to bribe the girls because she knew they wanted to destroy the Rowdys.

But yeah, she only wants what she can't have, including the Powerpuff Girl status.
Back to top  
King Moonraiser



Joined: 28 May 2005
Posts: 2479
Location: The Land of Misfit Boys

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:31 pm    Post subject:  

She doesn't want to be a hero; she wants to be a PPG. There's a difference.

She has no desire to help people, or perform good deeds. She wants the attention and power of a super-being without any of the responsibilities. That doesn't make her a hero.
Back to top  
Agent Orange



Joined: 31 May 2005
Posts: 946
Location: The Netherlands

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:52 pm    Post subject:  

King Moonraiser wrote: She doesn't want to be a hero; she wants to be a PPG. There's a difference.

She has no desire to help people, or perform good deeds. She wants the attention and power of a super-being without any of the responsibilities. That doesn't make her a hero.

"In some instances, anti-hero has come to refer to a protagonist of a work whose actions and motives are villainous or questionable."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti_hero

Sounds like an anti-hero to me, though I'm not sure if Princess can be considered a 'protagonist' by it's purest definition of main character.
Back to top  
Gopher



Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Posts: 3032
Location: In a hole....

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:05 pm    Post subject:  

^ In some instances. Not this one.

It'd make sense if she was always doing good things for the people, but secretly had her own agenda, like Tthe Penguin in "Batman Returns". But Princess spent the majority of her time openly attacking the girls. Nothing questionable about it. Like Moon and Dark said, spoiled, attention-seeking, brat.

What I'm more interested in is, how can you be a "protagonist" if your actions are "villainous and questionable"? Wouldn't you just be, villainous and questionable?
Back to top  
Booncy



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 51
Location: West Haverstraw

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:12 pm    Post subject:  

Gopher wrote: ^ In some instances. Not this one.

It'd make sense if she was always doing good things for the people, but secretly had her own agenda, like Tthe Penguin in "Batman Returns". But Princess spent the majority of her time openly attacking the girls. Nothing questionable about it. Like Moon and Dark said, spoiled, attention-seeking, brat.

What I'm more interested in is, how can you be a "protagonist" if your actions are "villainous and questionable"? Wouldn't you just be, villainous and questionable?

Lol, or an anti-villain.
Back to top  
King Moonraiser



Joined: 28 May 2005
Posts: 2479
Location: The Land of Misfit Boys

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject:  

Agent Orange wrote: "In some instances, anti-hero has come to refer to a protagonist of a work whose actions and motives are villainous or questionable."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti_hero

Sounds like an anti-hero to me, though I'm not sure if Princess can be considered a 'protagonist' by it's purest definition of main character.

You didn't quote the most important part of the definition of an anti-hero: "An anti-hero in today's books and films will perform acts generally deemed 'heroic,' but will do so with methods, manners, or intentions that may not be heroic." Princess has done nothing heroic.

Gopher wrote: What I'm more interested in is, how can you be a "protagonist" if your actions are "villainous and questionable"? Wouldn't you just be, villainous and questionable?

In his home country, Vlad the Impailer is considered a hero. He defended his land from invaders. His methods were quite cruel.
Back to top  
Agent Orange



Joined: 31 May 2005
Posts: 946
Location: The Netherlands

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:33 pm    Post subject:  

King Moonraiser wrote: Agent Orange wrote: "In some instances, anti-hero has come to refer to a protagonist of a work whose actions and motives are villainous or questionable."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti_hero

Sounds like an anti-hero to me, though I'm not sure if Princess can be considered a 'protagonist' by it's purest definition of main character.

You didn't quote the most important part of the definition of an anti-hero: "An anti-hero in today's books and films will perform acts generally deemed 'heroic,' but will do so with methods, manners, or intentions that may not be heroic." Princess has done nothing heroic.

I stand corrected.

The again, I never said I was fully sure anyway.
Back to top  
 
       RR.NET Forums Forum Index -> Classic PPG and RRB Discussion
Page 1 of 1

RSS feed of forums.


Powered by phpBB Search Engine Indexer
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group