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[Rellik]

I change mine actually.

1. Metallica
2. Godsmack
3. Black Sabbath
4. Led Zeppelin
5. Megadeth

There we go!

[Thrash]

Suprisingly I'm seeing some pretty good stuff from a lot of you guys. Except I can no longer stand Metallica, they're so overrated and overplayed. Everyone of their earlier songs is like an overplayed single to me, and everytime I listen to their new music, I beg God to put me in a more comfortable state... like having AIDS.

1. Blind Guardian
2. Megadeth
3. Slayer
4. Dragonforce
5. Dio


P.S,
Spidey "looking up" if Korn is metal pretty much sums up to turning to ask me. They're not.

[Agent Orange]

1) Sodom
2) Sabaton
3) Stratovarius
4) Slayer
5) Rhapsody Of Fire

Other bands I highly admire: Destruction, Rammstein, Dragonforce, Fear Factory, Metallica, Queen, Symphony X, Iced Earth, Evile, Aneurysm and Fatal Embrace.


And as to the debate over the 'nu-metal' bands, I've come across this definition on a musicforum (consisting of mostly metalheads):

Nu-Metal: By no means is this Metal. It is more of a kind of "Alternative Rock", mixed with influences from other genres of music such as, ie, rap. The genre consists of most of this day and age's popular "metal" bands such as Slipknot, Linkin Park, Papa Roach and others.

Note that the quotation marks around the word "metal" in the above paragraph has a sarcastic and ironic intention.

[Spider Ruff Boy]

Thrash wrote: Suprisingly I'm seeing some pretty good stuff from a lot of you guys. Except I can no longer stand Metallica, they're so overrated and overplayed. Everyone of their earlier songs is like an overplayed single to me, and everytime I listen to their new music, I beg God to put me in a more comfortable state... like having AIDS.

1. Blind Guardian
2. Megadeth
3. Slayer
4. Dragonforce
5. Dio


P.S,
Spidey "looking up" if Korn is metal pretty much sums up to turning to ask me. They're not.

Buahaha, I never doubted my firmly held beliefs of the topic of ass-to-mouth...I mean, Korn "not" being metal

[GhostBloss]

oh my will u make me choose?? *sigh* ok....


1-Metallica
2-Black Sabbath
3-Simple Plan
4-Sex Pistols
5-Green Day



these are just the most most most most important ones

[Xion Nightblade]

Spidey wrote: Look it up? By whose standards do I look it up under? iTunes? Windows Media Player? Amazon.ca? Their official website? People have opinions dude, I don't consider them heavy metal. More...experimental really but not so much in the sense of experimental like Massive Attack or Aphex...just like I consider the crushing heavy rock riffs of Godsmack to be heavy metal.

One could argue that Tool isnt' heavy metal but progressive metal, or a math metal band, like System of a Down...but SOAD is also considered heavy rock, or heavy metal, or just "goof" rock, or political rock...and the list of continuums go on and on >.<

sorry for not posting, but look it up in wikipedia...under heavy metal band list...Korn is there...so is Tool

[Spider Ruff Boy]

Wikipedia? "I" can post things on Wikipedia if I wanted to. That doesn't prove any point. I think it all comes down to personal opinion which is where we could happily close this debate at :)

You consider Korn to be heavy metal, I disagree
You consider Godsmack to be "post-grunge" when I don't even consider grunge a genre, but moreso a time period. Bands from that era are just punk rock...really dirty, but punk rock nonetheless lol (this is gonna stir shit up...people and their firmly held beliefs on the genre "grunge" hehe)

However, with Godsmack I can live with them as just plain ol' hard rock, which when I now think about it is what they moreso are then heavy "metal".

[Thrash]

Congratulations Godsmack, for being the most original, influential band in the universe...

A group that was formerly an Alice In Chains cover band.
A group that named themselves after an Alice In Chains song.
A group that sounds exactly like... Alice in Chains? Except not as good.

Why do people even bother? Because Alice In Chains can't make albums anymore? That must be it. I'm right, correct?

[Spider Ruff Boy]

haha, "Alice in Chains". I never got into them so I don't know at all what they sound like, but judging from that statement, I must like them cause I like Godsmack 8-)

[Thrash]

Out of the 90's pop-culture grunge craze, I must say that Alice In Chains emerged as the best of the bunch. I'm afraid it isn't saying much, since grunge is downright awful in practically every aspect, but they were an overall decent band.

Godsmack is more or less directly influenced from this particular band, if not a direct copy. I'm surpised you don't know what Alice In Chains sounds like, Spidey, they're pretty huge

Some mandatory listening would be their songs "Man In the Box" (such a famous song that I would be stunned if you have never heard it), and "Rooster".

[Rellik]

You can't exactly blame Sully for sounding like Layne. Concidering Layne was the one who got Sully into singing! With that in mind, of course there's going to be similarities between their singing styles. Me and my band play a few times for people, and they say I kinda sound like James Hetfield. And guess what....he's one of my major influences! :shock:

[Thrash]

What do you mean I can't blame him? It's not like Erna sounds like Staley by accident, especially if what you state is true. He, like anyone else, is capable of singing his own way, no matter who he may look up to.

I don't see it as influence, more like imitation.

[Rellik]

Why can't it be seen as influence? There's no reason why it can't be viewed as such. Plus you can't exactly say all this when one of the bands you seem to like, Dragonforce, actually admit that they steal their songs from childs nursery rhymes to make them sound "catchy".

[Thrash]

Alas, a great deal of the bands I enjoy write songs about famous pieces of literature, (Blind Guardian about LotR, Mastodon about Moby Dick, etc) so arguing that Dragonforce derived songs from a nursery rhyme leaves me more or less, unphased.

The source from where you retrieved such information wouldn't hurt, because I don't know exactly what you mean when you say "they steal their songs from childs nursery rhymes". In what regards? Do they sing lyrics from or about a child's nursery rhyme? Do they use the melody of said rhyme in their music? What? No matter what you mean, I can't see why this has anything to do with what I'm saying. I'm not however, suggesting that you go journeying on wikipedia again to find something that does have to do with what I am saying. I would certainly hate it if you had to go out on another research spree just to desperately argue with me.

What I'm talking about is how the band sounds. Dragonforce is influenced by many Power Metal bands, but they manage to establish their own original sound. All I can hear when I listen to Godsmack is Alice in Chains. Just like how all I can hear when I listen to Seether is Nirvana, just like how all I can hear when I listen to Creed is Pearl Jam. It's as simple as that. The latter bands see how popular the former bands were, and capitalize greatly off of their sound. The fact that Godsmack sells out their music in movies, video games, and NAVY commercials at every turn is proof enough that money is something they're very interested in.


Edit: To save you the trouble of scrambling to wikipedia again, I have found what you were talking about...

Some say that the track "Heart of a Dragon", is similar in melody to the children's nursery rhyme Five little speckled frogs. Something that is alluded to by lead guitarist Herman Li in an interview by HMP when he comically states: "...you have to steal their songs as well. We steal ours from nursery rhymes and children songs, that's why they are so catchy!.

He wasn't admitting. He was kidding.
:hurr:

[Rellik]

I did not scramble to wiki to find that out, just so I could go on with this completly unnecassary, and frankly stupid, agrument. I found out about Dragonforce at least 10 months ago, and I looked them up on wiki, much as I do with all my favorite bands and new bands I hear about. This pointless argument was about Godsmack and AIC. I would say that the Godsmack/AIC comparison is like the Pantera/Exhorder comparison. Pantera became bigger than their so called 'rival' Exhorder because people just liked them better. Just like how people, like Spidey, have never heard of Alice in Chains, but have heard of Godsmack. Godsmack just let their songs appear in video games, movies and Navy commercials, yes, to make money.

That's why the music business is called a 'business'. You try to make money doing it! That's like saying Mcdonalds are bastards for putting theri logo on a NASCAR car, to promote themselves. But Godsmack, like a lot of other bands, make their music because they love to do it. And in doing something they love, they make money. Everyone wants money, everyone lives off of money. Without it, bands wouldn't be able to get to the places they get to.